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- From: dbell@shvn.com (Doug Bell)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++?
- Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:47:15 -0700
- Organization: FTL Games
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- goochb@rwi.com (William D. Gooch) wrote:
-
- > dbell@shvn.com (Doug Bell) writes:
- >
- > >goochb@rwi.com (William D. Gooch) wrote:
- >
- > >> Anyone know how many bits are in a Java machine word?
- >
- > >Er...A byte is usually 8-bits. That's what a bytecode is in this case at
- > least.
- >
- > My reference to "Java machine" was about hardware, not the
- > virtual machine. Bytecoding has little to do with this - issues
- > such as handling 32-bit and 64-bit numeric values efficiently are
- > more relevant.
-
- Sorry about the misunderstanding.
-
- > Having thought about what Alan said a bit more, I now think that
- > Java hardware probably won't do a whole lot for Lisp or Smalltalk,
- > because Java is statically typed. The same reasoning indicates,
- > I believe, that the speed improvements to be gained from special-
- > purpose Java hardware are not likely to be as significant as those
- > that have been seen for Lisp machines. This will most likely make it
- > harder for Java hardware to compete with conventional hardware
- > than it has been for Lisp machines.
-
- I agree that Java CPUs are unlikely to replace general purpose CPUs for
- executing Java. The successful Java CPUs will probably be used for
- embedded applications. Since JIT Compilers and other native compilation
- methods for Java allow Java to make good use of conventional processors, I
- doubt that special purpose processors will offer enough of an advantage,
- or be able to keep pace technologically.
-
- <snip>
- >
- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- > William D. Gooch
- > RothWell International
- > goochb@rwi.com
- > Texas liaison for the International Programmers Guild
- > For information on IPG, see http://www.ipgnet.com/ipghome.htm
- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- Doug Bell
- dbell@shvn.com
-